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So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« on: July 24, 2009, 01:07:39 PM »
Personally I think it's bull crap! All it's going to do is tax the hell out of small businesses to the point where they wont make any profit. Also I don't like the idea of the government saying weather or not you deserve to be treated for something you have. And if stupid arse obama did care about our shitty arse economy he wouldn't be trying to push a 1 trillion dollar bill. i hate this guy..

oh on another note I was pissed cuz senate was two votes short on passing a bill that would allow Concealed weapons permits holders to carry in 48 states.

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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2009, 09:13:53 AM »
Since I'm not in the US it doesn't really ring a bell with me... but after what they did with healthcare here, I can envision your pain on change to it...

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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2009, 10:12:22 AM »
Idk if I'm more pissed at those or this damn cash for clunkers........I hate him. Who's up for a riot at the white house? :glasses9:


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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2009, 10:58:15 AM »
I'm down!  * go's and gets the remm. 870*

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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 02:30:45 AM »
I'll say this, goverment ran health care works extremely well.........in Europe. But the US isn't copying the European Unions layout of goverment healthcare. Over there, there is no health insurance or limits to doctors or illnesses, you get sick, you're treated cause your taxes pay for it, and personal taxes there are no worse than here, actually I believe they're better. Good thing is, people in Europe are in completely better health than in the US as a result. No the doctors over there don't make 1 million+ dollars a year, but they do make a nice living.

In short, I agree, our health care system sucks, and is completely broken, however Obama's plan isn't the key, it isn't going to fix squat. Here's what needs to be done:

* Incorporate health care into taxes (like police pay, schools, etc.).
* Eliminate doctor cuts for perscriptions (same medicine in the US that cost $100 cost $5 in almost all other countries).
* Pay doctors based on their patients general health from tax money (the better the doctor, the better the patients health, the better their pay).
* Eliminate all health care/insurance companies (yes jobs will be lost but it will average out in the long run with new jobs created by the tax system).
* Set up in home doctor program (in other words, instead of pizza delivery, call the hospital and request the doctor come see you, new job created here).
* Set up better nation wide health program to drive smarter eating (this will come more naturally when people can see a doctor for free because it's paid by taxes).
* No increase in taxes "ANYWHERE" when program starts, funds must be derived from current taxes, that's right, corrupt politicians can't pocket all that money any more.
* Foriegn studies/exchange program, incourage new upcoming doctors to study/intern in the European Union, to better understand the system, learn other cultures, and build bridges with other nations. Same for doctors in EU.
* Make strict laws against malpractice with stern consiquences, this will reduce the likely hood of doctor errors that currently make up a large part of our broken system.
* Make strict laws that no practician, or hospital can charge any patient for any service offered.

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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 02:28:15 PM »
Well they did it, and I don't know about you guys but I'm outraged!

At least Bill stood up against this sh**t. And the 13 states that followed.

Unfortunately it's probably gonna take more than a 14 state lawsuit to change things.

We need the people to stand up. This country is as much ours as it is theirs.

Oh and Biden, This is a big f***ing mistake!.


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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 02:38:18 PM »
I thought it was like 26 states. I know good ol Virginia is real pressed on Suing the Fed Gumment..... I love my state, lol! but anyways I'm pissed about it too! WHY THE **** SHOULD I PAY FOR SOME LAZY arse'S HEALTH INSUREANCE!!?? They already get enough from me for their well fare.
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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 02:43:09 PM »
Exactly, not everyone can afford health insurance, that's just the way it is.... You can't make those who work hard to make a living pay for those who can't get off their arse.


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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 02:55:25 PM »
and for how corrupt our fed gov't is half the money they take from us will probably magically disappear with out a trace!
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Re: So what you ya'll think about the health care bill
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 02:57:34 PM »
Personally.... I don't care... But that's my right as a non-US resident.

That's to say, we got that same thing dropped on our plate three years ago, and overall it's not considered a great succes....

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